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meanwhile, the fbi is still trying to wrap up the petraeus incident. they're looking through potential evidence taken from paul lal broadwell's home during a consensual search earlier this week. now, amid allegations that she mishandled classified information, the army has yanked broadwell's security clearance. and on cnnhead line news, broadwell hasn't made any public comments, even in print. meanwhile, petraeus will make it back on capitol hill to testify tomorrow on benghazi. joining me nbc's correspondent kelly o'donnell. and brad gilman, editor-at-large for "time" magazine. he wrote the cover story entitled "the petraeus affair." there's a whole lot of hearings on benghazi which, of course, all will sort of bleed into the petraeus affair. give us the lineup today and what you expect to hear? >> you're right, chuck. there is so much overlap, what we've heard from someone planning the committee meeting, intel, for both the house and senate side, they wanted to separate those matters of personal and security concerns to the issue that brought it to t
meanwhile, the fbi is still trying to wrap up the petraeus incident. they're looking through potential evidence taken from paul lal broadwell's home during a consensual search earlier this week. now, amid allegations that she mishandled classified information, the army has yanked broadwell's security clearance. and on cnnhead line news, broadwell hasn't made any public comments, even in print. meanwhile, petraeus will make it back on capitol hill to testify tomorrow on benghazi. joining me...
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as an old fbi agent, you should prove it first. >> but this is important. you're saying petraeus says, look, i said it was terrorism all along. susan rice told the american people we thought it was spontaneous. there's a disconnect. >> even more important than that, the narrative as it went from the cia to other intelligence agencies was correct. it was an act of terrorism. we knew that. the difference is what happened when it went outside of the intelligence community for, as the senator called it, you know, a committee to look at this thing and make the determination on what the narrative was. the narrative was wrong. and why that's important, this isn't just about parsing words and who was right. there was some policy decisions made based on the narrative that was not consistent with the intelligence that we had. that's my concern. and we need to say, hey, we need to figure out how that happened, and let's make sure that doesn't happen again. >> did people die because we didn't protect them adequately? is that the bottom line here? >> david, we gave the
as an old fbi agent, you should prove it first. >> but this is important. you're saying petraeus says, look, i said it was terrorism all along. susan rice told the american people we thought it was spontaneous. there's a disconnect. >> even more important than that, the narrative as it went from the cia to other intelligence agencies was correct. it was an act of terrorism. we knew that. the difference is what happened when it went outside of the intelligence community for, as the...
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>> well, it is and fbi investigation, that is continuing. i read both the "post" and the times this morning and it is pretty well laid out, i think. i hate to discuss it, except to say there are a number of things that one has to consider, the first of which was there any kind of national security breach. to date, there was not. and, the fbi has briefed me, now, i actually wish we had been briefed a little bit earlier. so that the full intelligence committee, one of the things i've tried to do, chris, is bring both sides together. so, my vice chairman saxby chambliss and i share material and work together and that is a very important concept. with neither of us knowing ahead of time, all of this, obviously, comes as a big shock. and we are very much able to keep things in a classified setting, at least if you know you can begin to think and then to plan and, of course we have not had that opportunity. we begin our hearings on thursday. this is an inquiry, it's not a single hearing. there will be many different aspects of it. and, you know, o
>> well, it is and fbi investigation, that is continuing. i read both the "post" and the times this morning and it is pretty well laid out, i think. i hate to discuss it, except to say there are a number of things that one has to consider, the first of which was there any kind of national security breach. to date, there was not. and, the fbi has briefed me, now, i actually wish we had been briefed a little bit earlier. so that the full intelligence committee, one of the things...
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see, what the fbi -- the fbi got authority under the current foreign intelligence surveillance act to issue national security letters. they can do that inside the fbi without going to a u.s. attorney. my point is there may have been a predicate here, but it's not clear that there was. if the fbi is going to investigate every harassment case, because it's on the internet, they're going to be shut for business and not be able to do anything else, right? so you make judgments about when is there a predicate and is this a priority. that's not clear until you trace this for awhile and get to petraeus, and the question i'm raising is why, what was the predicate, why did they pursue it. >> once it gets to petraeus, tom, and i want your expertise here, what would happen? because i would imagine as soon as they realized david petraeus is involved, there must be a whole series of hoops they have to jump through or markers they have to hit. >> once they identified paula broadwell as the sender of the messages to kelley, then they subpoena the rest of her records and they see an exchange of anony
see, what the fbi -- the fbi got authority under the current foreign intelligence surveillance act to issue national security letters. they can do that inside the fbi without going to a u.s. attorney. my point is there may have been a predicate here, but it's not clear that there was. if the fbi is going to investigate every harassment case, because it's on the internet, they're going to be shut for business and not be able to do anything else, right? so you make judgments about when is there a...
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what about all of that time while the fbi was looking into it? and maybe they had suspected there was a national security risk. why weren't we, the people who were supposed to have oversight in the intelligence community informed of that possibility? >> so many questions. more than answers and when you hear the word criminal, dana, of course, that gets a lot of people going. dana bash on capitol hill for us. dana, thank you very much. >>> many of the fbi protocols on reporting criminal investigations to the white house and others actually stem way back to the watergate scandal. an investigation back then uncovered abuses and mistakes and the justice department has since made changes. i have a cold... i took dayquil, but i still have a runny nose. [ male announcer ] dayquil doesn't treat that. huh? [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus rushes relief to all your worst cold symptoms, plus it relieves your runny nose. [ sighs ] thank you! [ male announcer ] you're welcome. that's the cold truth! reminds me of our network before cdw virtualized it. how
what about all of that time while the fbi was looking into it? and maybe they had suspected there was a national security risk. why weren't we, the people who were supposed to have oversight in the intelligence community informed of that possibility? >> so many questions. more than answers and when you hear the word criminal, dana, of course, that gets a lot of people going. dana bash on capitol hill for us. dana, thank you very much. >>> many of the fbi protocols on reporting...
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the other store is when the fbi knew and the president knew. the time line they have is the president was informed after the election and thursday and that general clapper, the director of national intelligence, found out in a phone call on election day and told the white house on the day after the election. the fbi had been investigating for at least wreaks. >> months. >> i don't know if we are going to learn that's not true. we can deal with the questions. she it said he thought it was a terrorist attack. he went into closed meetings saying it was a video. perhaps he was doing it to protect the cia. i believe is he going to testify on capitol hill compelled by his own sense of duty or a subpoena. i think we are going to hear from him. the time of the election and sex scandal are not really important as much as what happened on the ground in benghazi, was there some kind of coverup to protect the cia and why would mike rogers, chairman of the house intelligence committee and dianne feinstein chairman on the senate side not be informed of an on
the other store is when the fbi knew and the president knew. the time line they have is the president was informed after the election and thursday and that general clapper, the director of national intelligence, found out in a phone call on election day and told the white house on the day after the election. the fbi had been investigating for at least wreaks. >> months. >> i don't know if we are going to learn that's not true. we can deal with the questions. she it said he thought...
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>> i would prefer you to the fbi. they have -- as i understand it protocols in place for when they notify the legislative and executive branches of investigations. and, you know, it is simply a fact that the white house was not aware of the situation regarding general petraeus until wednesday, and the situation regarding general allen until friday. so, you know, the fbi is the place to go in terms of an explanation of the protocols they follow. but i understand that that is the answer that they will give, that there are protocols they follow, that govern how they inform the various branches of government of these kinds of investigations. >> do you understand how people would think this is utterly bizarre, i mean the day after the election, and the anger you're hearing on capitol hill that they didn't know this was going on, at least the timing, at least the appearance. >> look, all i can tell you is when the white house was informed. and i would let the relevant members of congress explain to you how and when they wer
>> i would prefer you to the fbi. they have -- as i understand it protocols in place for when they notify the legislative and executive branches of investigations. and, you know, it is simply a fact that the white house was not aware of the situation regarding general petraeus until wednesday, and the situation regarding general allen until friday. so, you know, the fbi is the place to go in terms of an explanation of the protocols they follow. but i understand that that is the answer...
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she mentioned it to a friend of hers who works at the fbi. the fbi all of a sudden is looking into personal emails. >> the law of unintended consequences. think about that for a minute. it starts out with someone saying what am i getting these harassing emails? where are they coming from? all of a sudden it leads to all this. >> let's be careful here. >> no way. >> how is this working? >> here's the reality. what happens is there is this protection. we all know about the fourth amendment, right? the right protection. there's some measure of protection, and there's also an electronic protection privacy act. the problem, ashleigh, is it was enacted in 1986. >> we didn't even carry cell phones with us at that time, so it's outdated. why is that relevant? it's relevant because of this. if are you transmitting emails, there's a level of protection. if those emails that are stored on a server and they're there for six months, they're deemed abandoned, and as a result of that, the government without a warrant can now say, look, this person is a subj
she mentioned it to a friend of hers who works at the fbi. the fbi all of a sudden is looking into personal emails. >> the law of unintended consequences. think about that for a minute. it starts out with someone saying what am i getting these harassing emails? where are they coming from? all of a sudden it leads to all this. >> let's be careful here. >> no way. >> how is this working? >> here's the reality. what happens is there is this protection. we all know...
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investigation into the petraeus affair with the fbi continues. the dod, inspecto inspector genl investigation into john allen who is now understood had communications that may have been inappropriate. so these two investigations are moving forward. the consequence the top of canister in afghanistan will not be mounted for the rule of supreme commander in europe. for petraeus the question is still whether if he had access to class than making her computers and what and house received that information. cheryl: jennifer griffin out in washington, a lot of breaking news this morning, thank you very much. >> thank you. cheryl: we're getting very close to the president's news conference. today the issue of general petraeus will come up? dennis: there is no choice but to bring it. one thing the scandal has done all along it seems republicans are the only people complaining about what is this benghazi thing, what you said was a video? petraeus it has democrats like dianne feinstein calling for investigation. cheryl: is amazing how they get so angry when
investigation into the petraeus affair with the fbi continues. the dod, inspecto inspector genl investigation into john allen who is now understood had communications that may have been inappropriate. so these two investigations are moving forward. the consequence the top of canister in afghanistan will not be mounted for the rule of supreme commander in europe. for petraeus the question is still whether if he had access to class than making her computers and what and house received that...
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what is the fbi saying about this? >> well, i think they freely admit that there are no hard and fast rules for when you notify anybody else in the government that a senior intelligence official is having an affair. the general rule, and what their basic policy is, they don't tell anybody. when they're in the middle of a criminal investigation, who they're investigating. whether it's, you know, somebody in the white house or anybody. they just don't blab around town who they're investigating. now, there's a policy question here, obviously, about whether members of the intelligence committee should have been informed. they say there's a potential national security implications. the fbi and the justice department say they determined early on there weren't national security implications, that this was, at its core, not a crime, an affair. and the other thing about this is, that the fbi is sensitive to its own history, about a time when j. edgar hoover shepherded the peccadillos of official washington and parceled these th
what is the fbi saying about this? >> well, i think they freely admit that there are no hard and fast rules for when you notify anybody else in the government that a senior intelligence official is having an affair. the general rule, and what their basic policy is, they don't tell anybody. when they're in the middle of a criminal investigation, who they're investigating. whether it's, you know, somebody in the white house or anybody. they just don't blab around town who they're...
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>> mike rodgers is a very decent guy, a former fbi agent. very much into all of this. i think he just kind of went off on a tangent. the white house has said, the president has said that he didn't know before the election. i don't think anybody should be accusing the president of the united states of lying. >> felicia we heard on "meet the press," that there's clear and necessary separation between the justice department and the white house. is it your sense that this is strictly political? that congressman rodgers is just suggesting some sort of a breach there? >> well the first thing that this brings to mind when it comes to his accusation here is back to during the campaign season when harry reid was accusing governor romney of not having paid taxes for ten years. just sort of throwing this statement out there without anything to back it up. it's not too hard to see how this is, is along the same lines as that. and unless he is able to bring forth some kind of evidence there, it's just another baseless claim it seems. >> okay. up next, the big three with their must-
>> mike rodgers is a very decent guy, a former fbi agent. very much into all of this. i think he just kind of went off on a tangent. the white house has said, the president has said that he didn't know before the election. i don't think anybody should be accusing the president of the united states of lying. >> felicia we heard on "meet the press," that there's clear and necessary separation between the justice department and the white house. is it your sense that this is...
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the justice department and the pentagon and the fbi. the republican chairman of the house intelligence committee says, quote, it gives a new explanation that differs from information provided from testimony. and now they are demanding an immediate plan nation from clapper. we heard from a leading democrat who said the changes were made to protect the classification. they were not subject to any spin by the whoit house or ambassador to the u.n. it is high time we returned our focus to where it should have been all along. this new time line does not address another sig can't -- significant inconsistency. diplomatic agents were evacuated from the consulate to the airbase in germany. by september 14th, two days before ambassador rice's controversial sunday appearances, fbi agents learned from the consulate agents that there was no demonstration. this single data point that there was no demonstration gutted the anti-islam video theory. fox news asked the director of national intelligence why this information was apparently not included in th
the justice department and the pentagon and the fbi. the republican chairman of the house intelligence committee says, quote, it gives a new explanation that differs from information provided from testimony. and now they are demanding an immediate plan nation from clapper. we heard from a leading democrat who said the changes were made to protect the classification. they were not subject to any spin by the whoit house or ambassador to the u.n. it is high time we returned our focus to where it...
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what we're learning about the woman who alerted the fbi.
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they're saying that perhaps the fbi is going to do some more investigating. or the net to net in the first place? these questions are going to becoming more prevalent >> some people were going to say that the fbi was not one to win anyway. there was clearly a security problem or if they did not choose a path. >> that half naked photograph? >> what is that about? and i do not know, and other side show. but there is a another big problem with two different senior members of the armed intelligence community. that could have been compromising or perhaps information. with a select committee. >> dianne feinstein had a closed meeting and political allies, could this impact for a policy? >> absolutely. with one person of the afghanistan member, petraeus and also alan. is also going to be moving to nato. to help his people stay in the coalition and these rumored people... with really what was stable for the foreign policy component for the reelection now we could be completely undermined. >> president obama could not be too thrilled because he found out about that on
they're saying that perhaps the fbi is going to do some more investigating. or the net to net in the first place? these questions are going to becoming more prevalent >> some people were going to say that the fbi was not one to win anyway. there was clearly a security problem or if they did not choose a path. >> that half naked photograph? >> what is that about? and i do not know, and other side show. but there is a another big problem with two different senior members of the...
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me at fbi headquarters. fbi has senior officials embedded throughout cia headquarters and working together in the field. the cia is well aware that if an allegation is made against minimum, whether it's here in the cia or they're somewhere else in the government, that's the fbi's responsibility, and they have the jurisdiction to look at the matter, on visit the matter. this is not based on, you know -- again, the fbi begins its investigation. they have no clue that it's going to lead to someone at the cia, so this is -- the thing about animosity with the cia is in this matter particularly ridiculous. >> david petraeus visit security clearance on cnm.com for more information. >>> still thousands of folks without power. across ten states, recovering from superstorm sandy taking longer, much longer accident than people had hoped. >> god is with us, and we know we're going to have help soon. i trust in our government, you know, we're going to have help soon, and everything is going to be all right. ♪ ♪ we're
me at fbi headquarters. fbi has senior officials embedded throughout cia headquarters and working together in the field. the cia is well aware that if an allegation is made against minimum, whether it's here in the cia or they're somewhere else in the government, that's the fbi's responsibility, and they have the jurisdiction to look at the matter, on visit the matter. this is not based on, you know -- again, the fbi begins its investigation. they have no clue that it's going to lead to someone...
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the fbi launched the investigation who jill kelley, an unpaid social liaison at an air force base in florida, complained about receiving harassing e-mails from petraeus' biographer paula broadwell. agents later discovered broadwell and petraeus were having an affair. eric cantor's spokesperson says the congressman knew about the relationship late last month, but president obama apparently didn't know about it until last thursday, when petraeus offered his resignation. >> this is something that could have had an effect on national security. i think we should have been told. >> seems it's gone on for several months, and now it appears they're saying the fbi didn't realize until election day that general petraeus was involved. it just doesn't add up. >> jill kelley and her husband released a statement last night asking for privacy right now. congress may still eventually call petraeus to answer questions about the deadly attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi, libya, even though he's no longer head of the cia. petraeus was supposed to testify this week in front of the senate intellige
the fbi launched the investigation who jill kelley, an unpaid social liaison at an air force base in florida, complained about receiving harassing e-mails from petraeus' biographer paula broadwell. agents later discovered broadwell and petraeus were having an affair. eric cantor's spokesperson says the congressman knew about the relationship late last month, but president obama apparently didn't know about it until last thursday, when petraeus offered his resignation. >> this is something...
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joining us now is a former fbi supervisor agent. he is author of a book that you see on your screen there. he was on the ground after the uss cole attack. now you are coming in as a supervising agent. investigating what happened. what is the malaria -- what similarities and differences are there with uss cole and after benghazi? >> with uss cole we lost 17 sailors. with benghazi, it is difficult to find a legitimate partner in benghazi. in yemen we had the difficulty, too. but i think that we were able to identify those who were involved and were able to interrogate them and get instructions from them. we were able to link investigation for the terrorist attack. we were able to identify the suicide bombers. one thing i know about the fbi's that they are brilliant and putting the pieces of the investigation together. i am sure we will be able to know exactly what happened. and the people that were involved. jenna: at times have changed since the attack at the uss cole and what happened in benghazi. have you read about the interrogati
joining us now is a former fbi supervisor agent. he is author of a book that you see on your screen there. he was on the ground after the uss cole attack. now you are coming in as a supervising agent. investigating what happened. what is the malaria -- what similarities and differences are there with uss cole and after benghazi? >> with uss cole we lost 17 sailors. with benghazi, it is difficult to find a legitimate partner in benghazi. in yemen we had the difficulty, too. but i think...
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he was tipped off by an fbi employee a couple weeks ago. he followed up with the fbi to make sure the investigation was ongoing. we're going to hear a lot more about this during the course of the week. remember initially general david petraeus himself was supposed to testify about the benghazi attack in front of a couple of committees in congress, closed-door meetings. now he will not be there, this guy will. this is the michael more rel, acting director of the see ia. back to you guys. martha: that raises so many questions. we'll talk about them this morning. why would general petraeus not testify to an event he was privy to and on his watch? we'll ask michael hayden, the former cia director coming up. we'll talk to kt mcfarland about all this. doug, thank you lawmakers are wonder why they were never informed. senator diian feinstein is asking about the questions that came up. >> i informed my vice chairman and i talked to the director device. this is very hard stuff. >> and are you going to investigate why the fbi didn't notify you before
he was tipped off by an fbi employee a couple weeks ago. he followed up with the fbi to make sure the investigation was ongoing. we're going to hear a lot more about this during the course of the week. remember initially general david petraeus himself was supposed to testify about the benghazi attack in front of a couple of committees in congress, closed-door meetings. now he will not be there, this guy will. this is the michael more rel, acting director of the see ia. back to you guys. martha:...
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willinger says that's enough for the fbi to take it further. the fbi hasn't commented furtherer. an official says it was appropriate to investigate. >> does the fbi routinely investigate these harassing e-mails? >> the fbi is devoting more time these days to investigating cyber harassment cases, cyber stalking cases. he says they don't go after one on one cases that are less threatening, mildly threatening, which this appears to be. he says clearly there's something more here. he believes information about comings and goings that paula broadwell sent sparked the investigation and he said there were grounds to do that. >> brian, thanks very much. >>> if a top general has an affair, is it a crime under military law? the answer might be yes. is it time for a refresh you er course from the top down? more in the "the situation room." ♪ [ gordon ] for some this line is a convenience. how you doing today? i'm good thanks. how are you? i'm good. [ gordon ] but for others, it's all they can afford. every day nearly nine million older americans don't have enough to eat. anything else? no
willinger says that's enough for the fbi to take it further. the fbi hasn't commented furtherer. an official says it was appropriate to investigate. >> does the fbi routinely investigate these harassing e-mails? >> the fbi is devoting more time these days to investigating cyber harassment cases, cyber stalking cases. he says they don't go after one on one cases that are less threatening, mildly threatening, which this appears to be. he says clearly there's something more here. he...
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tonight, the latest turn in the cia sex scandal, as we learn the identity of the fbi agent who sparked the investigation that brought down one of the nation's most powerful leaders, and is now implicated another. president obama himself spoke out today for the first time since the scandal broke, and my co-anchor terry moran has the latest. >> ladies and gentlemen, the president of the united states. >> reporter: as president obama sauntered into the east room of the white house for his post-victory news conference, the scandal that's engulfed the highest levels of his national security team still swirled around him. tonight, abc news has learned the identity of the fbi agent who ignited the whole staggering chain of events. fredrik humphreys, a 47-year-old fbi veteran who is active in counterterrorism cases, is friends with tampa socialite jill kelley who turned to him when she got some harassing e-mails. meanwhile, in washington, paula broadwell, petraeus' former mistress, who allegedly sent the e-mails to kelley, remained in hiding at her brother's home. today, the fbi said she illeg
tonight, the latest turn in the cia sex scandal, as we learn the identity of the fbi agent who sparked the investigation that brought down one of the nation's most powerful leaders, and is now implicated another. president obama himself spoke out today for the first time since the scandal broke, and my co-anchor terry moran has the latest. >> ladies and gentlemen, the president of the united states. >> reporter: as president obama sauntered into the east room of the white house for...
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government mainly before the state department, the army, the fbi. so it was to prove that you can coordinate all of the intelligence services for the intelligence by different departments. so, they go to china to do a lot of things. and essentially it didn't work that way because of the complex command structure in china. the army and navy didn't get along, the military commander and the nationalist leader didn't get along and the risk the communist forces, the nationalist forces so it is a total mess and oss has this message in this case in china and essentially they also have big lessons to learn from. >> would you -- back entities the chinese nationalist and essentially they have a very different political vision for china. and they're motivated -- >> but they all wanted the japanese out, correct? >> they wanted the japanese out, but the japanese is still a lot of people come some people in china for example the nationalist is the purpose of itself. it will be unified. for the communists and a degree is not an end of itself it is a tool, it i
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what is the fbi's motive in all of this? andrea, just real quick, if you can a thought on that. >> that's another thing. it doesn't add up. she felt she was being harassed so she called the fbi again they just happened to stumble upon the man involved in this as general petraeus? i think the biggest question again, martha, four dead americans, potential cover-up after benghazi. did this affair affect the cover-up or the alleged cover-up. >> or was it just "gossip girls.". martha: also the fact that this story gets so much more attention all across the networks and all across the media than benghazi and death than murder of our ambassador ever did another thing we'll look into and talk about. jehmu, andrea, thank you. we'll see you later. bill: turkey is threatening to step up its military response to border violence by syria. today is the second day of an air bombardment by syrian warplanes. here is the video. listen to this. [explosion] bill: that is a fierce line of weaponry there. leland vittert live on the ground there i
what is the fbi's motive in all of this? andrea, just real quick, if you can a thought on that. >> that's another thing. it doesn't add up. she felt she was being harassed so she called the fbi again they just happened to stumble upon the man involved in this as general petraeus? i think the biggest question again, martha, four dead americans, potential cover-up after benghazi. did this affair affect the cover-up or the alleged cover-up. >> or was it just "gossip girls."....
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he's written books about both the cia and the fbi. do you believe the rivalry between the fbi and cia played any sort of a role in the petraeus downfall? >> well, cia does have a right to be furious and there is a scandal here but it is not about sex. adultery is not a federal crime. the scandal is that a single rogue fbi agent appears to have taken it upon himself to leak the raw reporting in this case to a member of congress. that's not how the game is played. that is a dirty business. >> you're talking about the agent that was contacted initially and wasn't part of the fbi investigation, but had some knowledge because he was the one that passed it on to his superiors, he then apparently went to someone who went to eric cantor, and that sort of started the ball rolling. that's not how this came out. is he really a major player in all of this? >> i think he should be and i think he will be. because that is dishonorable conduct. the fbi and the cia spent the second half of the 20th century at war with one another and their feuding was
he's written books about both the cia and the fbi. do you believe the rivalry between the fbi and cia played any sort of a role in the petraeus downfall? >> well, cia does have a right to be furious and there is a scandal here but it is not about sex. adultery is not a federal crime. the scandal is that a single rogue fbi agent appears to have taken it upon himself to leak the raw reporting in this case to a member of congress. that's not how the game is played. that is a dirty business....